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by Dave Mills
Fri Nov 03, 2017 10:47 am
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: The British 'Dark' class
Replies: 29
Views: 14333

Re: The British 'Dark' class

Thanks for getting in touch Geoff. I'll email back. I knew your dad when I was an apprentice. I believe there were a few Dark class models made for customers to get a feel for what they were getting. I'm pleased your son now has it in restored condition. I gave a talk in Moelfre last Saturday on the...
by Dave Mills
Fri Nov 28, 2014 9:48 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: MTB 539 (1602)
Replies: 12
Views: 8268

Re: MTB 539 (1602)

A diver explored MTB P1602 this summer and found she was in a little rougher condition than I had hoped for. The engine room deck area showed many small raged holes that appear to possibly due to electrolytic corrosion. I suspect this occurred due to the large amount of 'yellow metals' (brass, coppe...
by Dave Mills
Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:47 pm
Forum: Motor Launches
Topic: Coastal Forces, the lost experiences of WW1
Replies: 1
Views: 1194

Coastal Forces, the lost experiences of WW1

I found this website on WW1 ML's and titled, "The Movies". The Ships and Men of the Royal Navy Motor Launch Patrol 1914 - 1919.

http://www.motorlaunchpatrol.net/history/

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by Dave Mills
Mon Oct 14, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: MTB 539 (1602)
Replies: 12
Views: 8268

MTB P1602 (New Photo)

I found another photo of P1602 dated 1951 from France and bought it. It shows the pennant number on the bridge like the photo I bought of her in Liege harbour. I therefore assume the two photos were taken during the same visit abroad.
by Dave Mills
Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:12 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: The British 'Dark' class
Replies: 29
Views: 14333

Re: The British 'Dark' class

Thanks Ted for posting this image. I have just returned home after celebrating a friend's diamond wedding anniversary in Beaumaris, just one mile from where this photo was taken in the mid 1950's. I spoke to one of the guests who worked on the Dark Class when he was an apprentice as I was trying to ...
by Dave Mills
Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:39 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: MTB 539 (1602)
Replies: 12
Views: 8268

Re: MTB 539 (1602)

SEARCH FOR MTB 539 On the 13th July 2013 I was invited to join a dive team to go in search of MTB539 (P1602). We set off from the east coast of Anglesey initially for the team to dive a fishing boat wreck. If there was time they were to head out about 12 miles into the Irish Sea to search for the M...
by Dave Mills
Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:01 am
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: Dark Class FPB Demonstration Model P21
Replies: 0
Views: 1666

Dark Class FPB Demonstration Model P21

During a local vintage steam rally I was shown this photo of a Saunders-Roe Dark Class FPB model that was seen in Crete. It shows a basic model that I believe was made to demontrate the various armament options that could be readily interchanged. The photo was titled: "In the Maritime Museum in Chan...
by Dave Mills
Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:23 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: MTB 539 (1602)
Replies: 12
Views: 8268

Re: MTB 539 (1602)

FILM CLIPS OF P1602 IN ACTION While reading through CFA Green's memoirs aboard P1602 he refered to a film made in 1951 that shows a 'brief' glimps of P1602 in action. She appears for only 2 or 3 second at a time, but does show her charging through the sea and even shows up small impact damage near ...
by Dave Mills
Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:18 am
Forum: Coastal Forces Models
Topic: "Models by Design"
Replies: 0
Views: 1422

"Models by Design"

While at the new model engineering exhibion at Manchester I saw a lovely model of a Russian G5 MTB. It was a fascinating craft loosely based on the old British CMB but with a very heavily cambered deck. On enquiry it was based on a hull mouding from "Models by Design". Their website is http://www.mo...
by Dave Mills
Mon Jan 09, 2012 9:57 pm
Forum: Newsreel Footage
Topic: Surrender of E-Boats
Replies: 2
Views: 1886

Re: Surrender of E-Boats

Surprising to hear that these beautiful craft had no Heads ? (toilets). I found yet more old drawings in my mother's loft a couple of days ago. This time there were just a few German Schnelboot drawings of S38. Sadly only the front 2/3 length of plans and elevations were found. When I read that the...
by Dave Mills
Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:10 pm
Forum: Books & Magazines
Topic: British Warships & Auxilliaries 1952
Replies: 0
Views: 1085

British Warships & Auxilliaries 1952

Maritime Books have just published their Diamond Jubilee Commemorative Edition of British Warships & Auxilliaries 1952 by Steve Bush. To quote their website: To celebrate Her Majesty the Queen's Diamond Jubilee in 2012 we have produced a 1952 edition of our hugely successful annual publication Briti...
by Dave Mills
Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:43 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: The British 'Dark' class
Replies: 29
Views: 14333

Burma Dark Class Hull construction

The five Burmese Navy Dark Class (T201-T205) were constructed of riveted aluminium alloy sheet on Aluminium hull frames. These two photos show the round-head rivets clearly visible above the chine. Below the chine the hulls were flush riveted with countersunk rivets to reduce drag and the heads bein...
by Dave Mills
Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:24 pm
Forum: Coastal Forces Models
Topic: Dark Class Model
Replies: 1
Views: 2144

Re: Dark Class Model

Ian Roberts constructed this lovely 1/24 scale ‘Nautical Marine Models’ kit of Dark Biter. Note that she is in the final all black hull colour after the half black, half grey experiment to disguise the dirty exhaust from the Deltic Diesel engines. Ian says he simply followed the information supplied...
by Dave Mills
Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:48 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: MTB 539 (1602)
Replies: 12
Views: 8268

Re: MTB 539 (1602)

Since writing about the 92 year old lady welder on 539, I have just made contact with a fitter who worked with her on the construction of the aluminium hull from its start. He lent me a photo of her launching after my recent talk to the Gwynedd Engineering Society in Bangor. It was the same photo as...
by Dave Mills
Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:37 pm
Forum: Fast Patrol Boats
Topic: The British 'Dark' class
Replies: 29
Views: 14333

Engineless Dark for Japan?

While going through my 1000's of photos I found these very badly damaged negatives of the ellusive Japanese Dark. I compared the waterline with other Darks and they all seem very similar. Either the Japanese one had its engines installed, or was simply balasted to depth. There is no dirt around the ...

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