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by sidseymour
Tue Oct 24, 2023 2:43 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Fellow readers, After a long haul we have got some light at the end of our particular tunnel. Please see the email from the CWGC below. I would like to thank everyone who has provided assistance in this project and helped us to a conclusion. However, one or two pieces of the jigsaw remain unsolved. ...
by sidseymour
Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:28 am
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Many thanks for your continued support to this particular project. The information keeps coming in and I can continue to provide some succour to an old soldier about his Uncle.
by sidseymour
Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:47 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Many thanks for the alternative web site but, sadly, it was another blank . We are not finished yet....
by sidseymour
Wed Mar 27, 2019 5:39 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Doreen, I am glad that someone else is getting some benefit from the digging that is going on regarding Pilot Vessel No.4. You will see that I have been frustrated in my efforts to date, especially regarding the information I have sent to the RN and Merchant Navy. It could well be that I am asking t...
by sidseymour
Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:01 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Can anyone identify the legend on the top line of the Record of Death. What do the numbers refer to?
by sidseymour
Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:52 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Thank you for your continuing efforts into LGS and his demise. Interestingly, the gentleman searching for this information is Patrick Toms. He is now looking into a possible family connection to this man. There are some family anecdotes (no documents) of LGC joining the RNR in late 1939, early 1940....
by sidseymour
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

The date of death has been clouded by the action taking place during the hours of darkness which may explain the dates 28/29 November. I don't know if this hinders or helps anyone looking into this. The gentleman whose Uncle is the center of attention is very grateful for the information revealed so...
by sidseymour
Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:56 am
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Further to the information above, today I have heard the following. LGS was on board Pilot Vessel No.4 in his capacity as a member of the Royal Navy Reserve although, he is listed as a Merchant Seaman under the information received from General Register and Record Office of Shipping and Seamen (date...
by sidseymour
Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:11 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Gentlemen,
I have been doing a little more digging , trying to establish the coding at the top of the Record of Death

"Also, there must be a guide to the numbers used on the card somewhere, for nationality etc."

Any clues at all for you?

Sid
by sidseymour
Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Hi again, The "And the story around No. 19 mentions trying to shift the Dutch gold out of the country" was a subject that I had heard but had no confirmation of and therefore reluctant to speculate further. I have a meeting with LGS's nephew on monday and will present your findings to date...
by sidseymour
Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:35 am
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

L G Shannon was born in Portland and moved to Poole whereupon he join the MN. Spot on sir!
by sidseymour
Thu Oct 25, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Thank you Stephen. My search, when submitted to RN came back within 1 hour saying "no further details availble try MN". MN have said the reverse. Frustrating as clearly the vesssel was employed by RN as stated at the tom of the Record. I am hoping a few more eyes get to see this on this fo...
by sidseymour
Thu Oct 25, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Many thanks for those that have kindly taken the time to provide information for my search. I have attached the Record of Death. Please note the hand written notes. Does anyone have an opinion on how these could be construed?

Sid Seymour
by sidseymour
Thu Oct 25, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Stephen, Many thanks for taking the time and providing the information on Pilot Vessel No4. I was previously dissapointed when I tried the two "formal" routes and was close to moving on to another project. I will , in turn, pass this information to the gentleman who was searching for the i...
by sidseymour
Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:28 pm
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Re: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

Thank you for the review of my post .

The date of death, to the best of my knowledge is the same as the date the vessel was sunk, 28 November 1940.

Many thanks for anything you can come up with or direct me to.

Sid Seymour
by sidseymour
Tue Oct 23, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Personnel
Topic: Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940
Replies: 44
Views: 124566

Pilot Vessel No.4 - sunk 28/11/1940

I am looking for more details on the sinking of Pilot Vessel No.4. This vessel was in the service of the Admiralty when it was sunk by enemy action. I am taking my information from the Record of Death of a Merchant Seaman: Leonard Gould Shannon. On the record are some hand written notes which cloud ...

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