Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby Brian Holmes » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:18 pm

MTB_210 J S White, Cowes Isle of Wight 21/10/42

For a series of actions in the Channel (Gazette Date - 21/11/44)
DSC TLt Percy Randall Everett RNVR (Commanding Officer)
DSM LMtrMch James Henry Arthur Carter P/MX636172
DSM ALSea Alan Wilfred Armitage C/SSX25010

Known Crew
T Lt Percy Randall Everett RNVR Commanding Officer MTB 210 DSC 1944 Born 11/3/21 and died 6/93 at Wycombe
LMtrMch James Henry Arthur Carter P/MX636172
ALSea Alan Wilfred Armitage C/SSX25010

Wartime Activities
13th MTB Flotilla
MTB 205, MTB 206, MTB 207, MTB 208, MTB 209, MTB 210, MTB 211 and MTB 212
Based at Portland, Dover, Newhaven and Portsmouth
Based on Portsmouth
Operation Neptune Invasion of Normandy
18-9/8/44 HMS Melbreak, MTB 208, MTB 209, MTB 210 and MTB 212 engage M Class Minesweepers from 36th M Flotilla escorted by boats from 14th R Boat Flotilla near Cap d’ Antifer. MTB 208 hits R218 with a torpedo from 600 yards. R218 is torpedoed and sunk.
24-5/8/44 The 8th Artillery carrier flotilla takes the nights supply missions to Le Havre. They are
By PT 250, PT 511 and PT 514
Then HMS Seymour, MTB 257, MTB 256, MTB 254 and MTB 252
By another group MTB 452, MTB 447 and MTB 453
Finally by HMS Talybont, HMS Retalick, MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210
MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453 attack the convoy previously attacked by MTB 254, MTB 256 and MTB 257. MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453 are beaten off but return, engage R Boats and severely damage two of them.
MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 also attack the convoy.
MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 attack the convoy previously attacked by MTB 254, MTB 256 and MTB 257 then MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453. MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 are initially beaten off by five TLCs armed with 88mm guns but return and fire six torpedoes. MTB 210 sinks a TLC.
S 91 is sunk by HMS Tallybont and HMS Retalick north of Fecamp. German report says heavily damaged and scuttled, in addition, M 3857 / Rotherbaum sunk. V 243 is damaged and AF 103 is lost on a mine.
26-7/8/44 HMS Retalick (Lt. Brownrigg) with MTB 208 and MTB 210, as well as HMS Middleton (Lt. Cox) with MTB 252, MTB 256, PT 520, PT 511 and PT 514 are in action with the Eighth Gunboat Flottilla and the Fourteenth R Boat Flottilla an. AF 13, AF 98 and AF 108 are sunk.
12/44 For Disposal

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby Brian Holmes » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:19 pm

MTB_211 J S White, Cowes Isle of Wight 7/12/42

For a series of actions in the Channel (Gazette Date - 21/11/44)
MID Sto1 Alec Boast P/KX150201
MID Sto1 William Drummond P/KX155255

Birthday Honours 1945
DSC TLt Neill William Gilchrist Taylor RNVR (Commanding Officer)

Known Crew
TLt Mark Arnold-Forster RNVR (Senior Officer 13th MTB Flotilla 1943 -) Previously Commanding Officer MTB 219 then Senior Officer 5th MTB Flotilla
Lt Richard Lane Hogarth Killed in action Wednesday, 19 July 1944 aged 25 Son of William Robert and Esther Hogarth, of Churchill, Gloucestershire. Buried in Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery G.10. 26.
TLt Neil William Gilchrist Taylor RNVR Commanding Officer MTB 700 1944, Commanding Officer MTB 211 6/44 Commanding Officer MTB 703 18/9/44 MID 1944 and DSC 1945
AB James Mann P/JX 388419 Killed in action Wednesday, 19 July 1944 aged 19. Son of William James Mann and Lillian Maud Mann, of Verwood, Dorsetshire. Buried in Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery E. 66. 7.
Ord Joseph Edward White D/JX 707892 Died Thursday, 20 July 1944 of wounds received the previous day aged 19. Son of John Henry and Violet Olive White, of Heath Town, Wolverhampton. Buried in Haslar Royal Naval Cemetery. E. 66. ?
MtrMch Harry Parke P/MX 125577 Killed in action Wednesday, 19 July 1944 and buried at Haslar
Sto1 Alec Boast P/KX150201
Sto1 William Drummond P/KX155255

Wartime Activities
13th MTB Flotilla
MTB 205, MTB 206, MTB 207, MTB 208, MTB 209, MTB 210, MTB 211 and MTB 212
Based at Portland, Dover, Newhaven and Portsmouth
7-8/9/43 MTB 211 (SO embarked), MTB 249 and MTB 255 are on patrol near Fecamp.
2243 MTB 211, MTB 249 and MTB 255 are 3 miles off St Valery and are moving to the west.
2251 A coastal searchlight comes on and after a short time illuminates a ship moving westward close to St Valery. MTB 211, MTB 249 and MTB 255 move to reach an attacking position inshore of the target track. Searchlight activity follows with a vague challenge (Letter L) and a red tracer. Starshell causes MTB 211, MTB 249 and MTB 255 to move westward to await moonset at 2340.
2344 MTB 211, MTB 249 and MTB 255 close the coast, sight five targets at 3000 yards identifying them as flak lighters and attack. MTB 211 and MTB 255 fire torpedoes. After 38 seconds there is a large explosion followed seven seconds later by another. Intelligence later confirms two enemy vessels as sunk. The enemy return fire as MTB 211 and MTB 255 disengage hitting MTB 255 and lightly wounding the Commanding Officer, First Lieutenant and Coxswain. MTB 249 attacks the third vessel in the line which is a large armed trawler which rapidly sinks.
10-1/9/43 MTB 211 (SO embarked), MTB 249 and MTB 255 make an unsuccessful attack off St Valery.
3-4/11/43 MTB 207, MTB 211 (Senior Officer) and MTB 212 are lying in wait for two German destroyers off Cap d’Antifer having been directed by intelligence. MTB 211 is reduced to a maximum 18 kts because of an engine failure. As the destroyers approach, MTB 207 and MTB 211 are in a very good position but are spotted. The destroyers turn towards them and fire starshell. MTB 207 and MTB 211 make smoke and manage to evade.
Operation Neptune Invasion of Normandy
19-20/7/44 Probable action (Four men dead)
Series of actions in the Channel (Gazette Date - 21/11/44)
12/44 For Disposal

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby Brian Holmes » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:21 pm

MTB_212 J S White, Cowes Isle of Wight 21/12/42

For services during the German evacuation of Le Havre (Gazette Date - 14/11/44)
DSO TLt Mark Arnold-Forster RNVR

For a series of actions in the Channel (Gazette Date - 21/11/44)
DSM AB Alexander MacDonnell D/JX206807

For Operation Neptune - passage of troops and supplies during the assault on Normandy
DSC LtCdr Frederick Hamilton Dunlop

Known Crew
LtCdr Frederick Hamilton Dunlop
TSLt Mark Arnold Foster RNVR First Lieutenant MTB 45 19/9/41 Commanding Officer MTB 219 1942 Commanding Officer MTB 38 as Senior Officer 5th MTB Flotilla 24/8/42 – 21/6/43 and MTB 212 as SO 13th MTB Flotilla 1944 HMS Beehive 25/9/44 and HMS Aggressive 7/12/44. Post war he was a Journalist: 1946-1957 with The Manchester Guardian. In 1957 he left the Guardian to work for the Observer as a chief reporter and a defence correspondent. Shortly afterwards he became the deputy editor of the Independent Television News (ITV). From 1963 again with The Guardian.. Author of “The World at War” in 1973 and “The Siege of Berlin” in 1979 DSO 1944 DSC 1943 Two MIDs 1942 MID 1943 Born 16/4/20 in Swindon and died 25/12/81 From St. Ives, Cornwall. Son of William Edward (a painter) and Katherine (Laird) Arnold-Forster.
Married (13.01.1955) Valentine Mitchison; two daughters, three sons
AB Andrew Fraser J/X642099 HMS St Christopher (Coastal Forces training establishment, Fort William 28/4/44 HMS Hornet (Coastal Forces base, Gosport) 7/6/44 13th MTB Flotilla 29/6/44 MTB 212 1/7/44 HMS Hornet (Coastal Forces base, Gosport) 19/9/44 HMS Collingwood (training establishment, Fareham 13/10/44 Air/Sea Rescue 55th Flotilla 27/12/44 ML 869[attached to 3rd Commando Brigade, 14th Army, Burma] 2/3/45 HDML 1479 12/45 – 4/8/46 Born 4/12/45 and died 4/6/2006
AB Alexander MacDonnell D/JX206807

Wartime Activities
13th MTB Flotilla
MTB 205, MTB 206, MTB 207, MTB 208, MTB 209, MTB 210, MTB 211 and MTB 212
Based at Portland, Dover, Newhaven and Portsmouth
3-4/11/43 MTB 207, MTB 211 (Senior Officer) and MTB 212 are lying in wait for two German destroyers off Cap d’Antifer having been directed by intelligence. MTB 211 is reduced to a maximum 18 kts because of an engine failure. As the destroyers approach, MTB 207 and MTB 211 are in a very good position but are spotted. The destroyers turn towards them and fire starshell. MTB 207 and MTB 211 make smoke and manage to evade.
20-1/3/44 MTB 202, MTB 206, MTB 212 (Senior Officer) MTB 354, MTB 359 and MTB 362 attack 18 Vp.-Flotilla escorting Convoy Hecht“ Tanker Rekum (ex-brit. Was Shikari , (5540 BRT) which departed Boulogne at 2030 moving eastward.. MTB 206 and MTB 212 are beaten off by gunfire. MTB 212 suffers some damage.
MTB 354, MTB 359 and MTB 362 then attack the tanker and are also beaten off by gunfire.
Sighting reports from the MTBs allow shore batteries at Dover to engage the tanker which is hit and sinks off Calais
Operation Neptune Invasion of Normandy
18-9/8/44 HMS Melbreak, MTB 208, MTB 209, MTB 210 and MTB 212 engage M Class Minesweepers from 36th M Flotilla escorted by boats from 14th R Boat Flotilla near Cap d’ Antifer. MTB 208 hits R218 with a torpedo from 600 yards. R218 is torpedoed and sunk.
23-4/8/44 The 15th V-Flotilla (KKpt. Rall) with 2 Trawlern, 1 U-Jäger, 16 KFKs, 2 R-Boats and 2 others under tow transfer from Le Havre to Dieppe. Off Cap d´Antifer and Fécamp they attacked firstly by the Frigate HMS Thornborough (Lt. Brown), the destroyer HMS Talybont (Lt. Holdsworth), MTB 695, MTB 694 and MTB 692 and later by the Frigate HMS Retalick (Lt. Brownrigg), the destroyer HMS Melbreak (Lt. Kirby) and MTB 212, MTB 208 and MTB 205. V 716 and R 229 are damaged R 219 is sunk by fighter bombers in the entrance to Dieppe Harbour in position 49 56N 001 04E.
Services during the German evacuation of Le Havre (Gazette Date - 14/11/44)
Series of actions in the Channel (Gazette Date - 21/11/44)
12/44 For Disposal

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby cdsc123 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:08 pm

Your dad's boat MTB 212 as houseboat Blue Coral at Riverland Christchurch has appeared in an interesting photo here;

http://www.dorsetlife.co.uk/2012/05/chr ... ime-craft/

She is between ex ML 110 Corinthus and another short MTB. She was later (1961/2) towed to Littlehampton and was berthed in the basin alongside the footpath. She was shortened and it is widely believed that the remains currently there are of this vessel.

This her in 1987, courtesy of Phil Simons Houseboats book;
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blue coral at littlehampton 1987 ex mtb 212.JPG

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby cdsc123 » Tue Jul 17, 2012 2:23 pm

This is her in 2009, hopefully a few bits may still be there now. Also from Phil's book;
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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby MTB 208 » Mon Aug 05, 2013 10:34 am

I am now the (proud) owner of MTB 208, and in the process of stabilising her condition. Much of the internal structure remains, but the hull was sheathed in concrete in the 70's. A shame to some extent, but also a plus as this means she still retains her shape, and is still very much afloat.

I would be keen to get hold of any information available on her, her sister ships in the 13th and those who served aboard.

I will be happy to show anyone interested around so please message me or give me a call.

James
07899 727070
james@arch897.com

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby johnk » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:44 pm

Hi James,

Many thanks and glad to hear she is in indeed, proud hands, cemented sounds interesting, be great if you could post any pictures....all the best,

Johnk

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby ruthlawrie » Mon Aug 11, 2014 2:42 pm

Some more;
Think that is my father Alexander Anderson in picture mtb 203 hatch.jpg with his hat at back of head!
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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby CAM » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:53 am

MTB_209 J S White, Cowes Isle of Wight 9/9/42

24-5/8/44 The 8th Artillery carrier flotilla takes the nights supply missions to Le Havre. They are
By PT 250, PT 511 and PT 514
Then HMS Seymour, MTB 257, MTB 256, MTB 254 and MTB 252
By another group MTB 452, MTB 447 and MTB 453
Finally by HMS Talybont, HMS Retalick, MTB 205 , MTB 209 and MTB 210
MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453 attack the convoy previously attacked by MTB 254, MTB 256 and MTB 257. MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453 are beaten off but return, engage R Boats and severely damage two of them.
MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 also attack the convoy.
MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 attack the convoy previously attacked by MTB 254, MTB 256 and MTB 257 then MTB 447, MTB 452 and MTB 453. MTB 205, MTB 209 and MTB 210 are initially beaten off by five TLCs armed with 88mm guns but return and fire six torpedoes. MTB 210 sinks a TLC.
S 91 is sunk by HMS Tallybont and HMS Retalick north of Fecamp. German report says heavily damaged and scuttled, in addition, M 3857 / Rotherbaum sunk. V 243 is damaged and AF 103 is lost on a mine.
What a chronology of attacks MTB and which hosted this fight? The Germans have a description of the death of this night the M-3857 and S-91, but the participation of the AF-barges is not mentioned anywhere.

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby NinaB » Sun Jun 05, 2016 2:11 pm

I am now the (proud) owner of MTB 208, and in the process of stabilising her condition. Much of the internal structure remains, but the hull was sheathed in concrete in the 70's. A shame to some extent, but also a plus as this means she still retains her shape, and is still very much afloat.

I would be keen to get hold of any information available on her, her sister ships in the 13th and those who served aboard.

I will be happy to show anyone interested around so please message me or give me a call.

James
07899 727070
james@arch897.com

Hi James,

I've been searching for ages and have just found out that my father was an engineer on MTB 208 during the war. I have photos of it in his old album. My father's name was Alec Spear. At the end of the war he was a chief Engineer and in 1951 my parents immigrated with us 3 girls to New Zealand. His first job in New Zealand was on the island of Rangitoto in Auckland looking after the diesel engines which supplied the electricity for the naval stores on the island, then as engineer for the RNZ Navy, Devonport, in charge of taking care of the naval ships. He once helped restore a Fairmile for someone who had bought it for private use.

Nina

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Re: Pennant No 201–212 72ft White Built Boats

Postby Bazthecarper » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:28 pm

Some more;
Think that is my father Alexander Anderson in picture mtb 203 hatch.jpg with his hat at back of head!
My Father Albert Robinson was Telegraphist on mtb 203 for a few months from June 1943 !


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